tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post8549158020135834784..comments2023-04-02T07:30:36.643-04:00Comments on Traumatized By Truth: Happy Stephanie Z Day!!! (or Why Creationism and Faith are often Arational)DuWayne Braytonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-83727981461485048712009-05-15T23:40:00.000-04:002009-05-15T23:40:00.000-04:00Damn it. I'd only seen Comments 1-5, and now I've...Damn it. I'd only seen Comments 1-5, and now I've just been repetitious.Juniper Shoemakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12139181817352528656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-52234867440985682082009-05-15T23:39:00.000-04:002009-05-15T23:39:00.000-04:00I now have difficulty responding to this post and ...I now have difficulty responding to this post and its comment thread, because I suspect that the discussion may have become a semantic debate. Due to my Philosophy of Science course, in which I learned to think of language as governed by both explicit and cryptic rules, I am no longer concerned about language "purity". There really is no "right" way to coin a word. Technically, there isn't a "Juniper Shoemakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12139181817352528656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-75684587896038590782009-05-15T22:23:00.000-04:002009-05-15T22:23:00.000-04:00Oh, and yes, arational exists. Most spell checker...Oh, and yes, arational exists. Most spell checkers don't look for it though, probably because it's so poorly known that most people who type it are actually making a typo. <br /><br />"Creedance" however is spelled "credence". :)Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-496877125743840852009-05-15T22:21:00.000-04:002009-05-15T22:21:00.000-04:00More semantics? Okay... maybe I AM a bit prescrip...More semantics? Okay... maybe I AM a bit prescriptivist. But I think you hit both words dead-on -- being misinformed does not make your beliefs irrational, even if the beliefs themselves are irrational should one try to suss them out. <br /><br />Your old pastor is obviously irrational in his belief, despite being intelligent, since he's inserting an extra entity counter to Occam's Razor (e.g.Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-14209175143161688942009-05-15T22:02:00.000-04:002009-05-15T22:02:00.000-04:00I only wish I could be that fucking cool. But I a...I only wish I could be that fucking cool. But I am not and I doubt that John Wilkins is either (not that he doesn't totally rock), though the abstract to the paper he wrote (see link) is the first time I noted it used.<br /><br />The distinction between arational and irrational, is not a matter of the substance of the belief, action or feeling, it is the context.<br /><br />An example is my old DuWayne Braytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-49688242578008477482009-05-15T21:08:00.000-04:002009-05-15T21:08:00.000-04:00I've never heard of arational. Fess up, you just m...I've never heard of arational. Fess up, you just made that up! ;-)<br /><br />You said:<br /><I>Irrational is believing something in the face of evidence that proves it is completely wrong.</I>This is kind of what I was getting at. While you provided an example of one type of irrational thought, typically the word also covers what you've defined as arational. I think it was that automatic Abby Normalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-69055139193562693472009-05-15T17:17:00.000-04:002009-05-15T17:17:00.000-04:00Toaster -
I think that would probably be a grand ...Toaster -<br /><br />I think that would probably be a grand idea...<br /><br />Thanks Sci, I'll try that. I may be getting a free e-cig from the company I got the one I have from and another company asked me to write about theirs, which I told them I would be happy to do if I had one. So that makes a lot of sense to me...<br /><br />Abby -<br /><br />No, that's not at all where I am going.<br /DuWayne Braytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-78181969357156823342009-05-15T13:47:00.000-04:002009-05-15T13:47:00.000-04:00I'd like to better understand what you mean by rat...I'd like to better understand what you mean by rational and irrational. You gave a child accepting what he'd been told as an example of rational. But I don't see it. It's understandable, acceptable, and perhaps a few other positive words ending in -able. But that doesn't make the belief a result of reason or logic, which is how I would define rational.<br /><br />You seem to be using rational as Abby Normalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-68060518914927712162009-05-15T11:43:00.000-04:002009-05-15T11:43:00.000-04:00Thanks for making it Sciday!!!!
Also, about gett...Thanks for making it Sciday!!!! <br /><br />Also, about getting books in the mail: I basically started out reviewing science books that I bought and read that were new. After a while, I got a publishing house that read my stuff, and offered me a catalog, to receive free books from them. I've only ever had one author actually OFFER to send me a book. So perhaps if you start reviewing, things scicurioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13266347710629871510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-90215234999081342172009-05-15T00:34:00.000-04:002009-05-15T00:34:00.000-04:00Perhaps it would really help if we stop using the ...Perhaps it would really help if we stop using the "Tree of Evolution" from Darwin's treatise that places humans at the pinnacle of the evolution of all life on Earth as if everything is slowly going to become more humanish. I find the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tree_of_life_with_genome_size.svg" REL="nofollow">Phylogenetic Bush of Evolution</A> based on 16S rRNA sequencing to be Toaster Sunshinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10388782618295656406noreply@blogger.com