tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post702504039860819265..comments2023-04-02T07:30:36.643-04:00Comments on Traumatized By Truth: Juxtaposition 235: Cthuluh, Jack Chick and Child AbuseDuWayne Braytonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-91395238724141343242009-07-01T20:11:04.225-04:002009-07-01T20:11:04.225-04:00"Hey, have you heard the good news about part...<i>"Hey, have you heard the good news about particle physics??"</i><br /><br />:) Thanks for that.Ambivalent Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908454781195782927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-75932958128445701122009-07-01T18:11:24.029-04:002009-07-01T18:11:24.029-04:00I happen to think that mocking and spreading aroun...I happen to think that mocking and spreading around links to hilariously bad, racist or antisemitic Chick Tracts, with the shared understanding that I'm showing it to them because it's so horribly wrong, is a good way to increase their visibility and detract from the influence they have. The more people are previously exposed to just how wrong they are, the more likely they will protect Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-80391607739438275932009-07-01T14:46:21.263-04:002009-07-01T14:46:21.263-04:00Yes, I also think that the term "moderate&quo...Yes, I also think that the term "moderate" is rather vague for what we're discussing. Non-evangelical is a good starting point, but I think there are overlaps with other criteria. I'm sure there are people whom we would consider to be non-evangelical, yet they still retain a wish to see certain of their moral standards imposed by legislation. Conversely, there are certainly Dan Jhttp://www.relativelyunrelated.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-84844483508094685472009-07-01T11:59:02.225-04:002009-07-01T11:59:02.225-04:00I think that we were understanding "moderate&...I think that we were understanding "moderate" to mean different things. I have encountered people like you describe and I agree that they can be quite evangelical. I was using the term to refer to non-evangelicals (of whom I know quite a few) and I think that these are a whole different animals. Thanks for clarifying.Ambivalent Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908454781195782927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-46160779865864288412009-07-01T11:43:35.486-04:002009-07-01T11:43:35.486-04:00I would define the moderates as people who general...I would define the moderates as people who generally don't couch their beliefs in absolute terms, or who don't believe that their absolute beliefs should be translated to the entire population. <br /><br />The mistake I think you're making, is in assuming that such people aren't evangelical. I hate to break it to you, but they quite often are. They <i>have</i> to be, or the DuWayne Braytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-80760835355001531272009-07-01T11:27:36.351-04:002009-07-01T11:27:36.351-04:00Yeah, sorry - that didn't come across well. No...Yeah, sorry - that didn't come across well. Not that it's any kind of excuse, but it was late when I wrote that comment and I certainly wasn't on form.<br /><br />I don't mean at all to demean the damage done to people who have been force fed this kind of crap. I did not articulate that very well - apologies. <br /><br />Perhaps this was an inappropriate post on which to voice my Ambivalent Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908454781195782927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-33620112862319514102009-07-01T04:03:18.426-04:002009-07-01T04:03:18.426-04:00Or maybe I'm just getting so tired of these di...<i>Or maybe I'm just getting so tired of these discussions on blogs where we're all trying to tell each other the right way to talk and think and live. Sounds a little like evangelism after a while.</i><br /><br />Ambivalent, I think you missed the point of this post. Magical thinking is more than the trifling inconvenience represented by blogger's fatigue to those of us who've Juniper Shoemakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12139181817352528656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-79497243134156096502009-07-01T02:24:22.890-04:002009-07-01T02:24:22.890-04:00Yeesh! Catholics too.
DuWayne - I get where you&#...Yeesh! Catholics too.<br /><br />DuWayne - I get where you're coming from. You've delivered a very thoughtful consideration of your own experiences and perspective. I'll freely admit that I have not been following all the discussion on this topic that's been going on here and elsewhere...because, well, I get so freakin' tired of the whole argument. I'd rather just live andAmbivalent Academichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908454781195782927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-9062937410214478792009-06-30T22:38:39.702-04:002009-06-30T22:38:39.702-04:001) Christine Lavin is freakin awesome
2) Chick tra...1) Christine Lavin is freakin awesome<br />2) Chick tracts are evil on many levels. Their take on Jews is particularly bizarre.Beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15356974556397009124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-87207839603435203922009-06-30T21:43:43.217-04:002009-06-30T21:43:43.217-04:00Thanks Abby, that does rather make me feel good......Thanks Abby, that does rather make me feel good...<br /><br />Dan J -<br /><br />Holy Shit!!! You Rule - I was trying to find something like that and couldn't - totally putting it in the post...<br /><br />And I will definitely get over to read your post when I have a few - I am definitely over the bullshit and tired of playing nice.<br /><br />Jason -<br /><br />I know that they seem DuWayne Braytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04074683871047219790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-61445847481296029842009-06-30T21:16:58.640-04:002009-06-30T21:16:58.640-04:00Just in case anyone is interested, there's a P...Just in case anyone is interested, there's a PDF version of the Cthulhu tract linked from a page at the site of one of the artists, <a href="http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/" rel="nofollow">Fred Van Lente</a>.Dan Jhttp://www.relativelyunrelated.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-54358956922051855172009-06-30T19:19:38.079-04:002009-06-30T19:19:38.079-04:00I had no idea what a Chick Tract was through most ...I had no idea what a Chick Tract was through most of my childhood, though I recall having seen one such tract on a visit to my grandparents', when we went with them to church on Sunday. <br /><br />Years later, I'm on the interwebs and someone mentions "Chick tracts" as being hilarious. I Google it (or I might have used Yahoo, I can't remember how long ago this was), and Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-40362922368198156472009-06-30T18:10:15.003-04:002009-06-30T18:10:15.003-04:00My post from last night kinda gets to the point th...My post from last night kinda gets to the point that <a href="http://www.relativelyunrelated.com/2009/fuck-being-civil-and-while-were-at-it-fuck-religion-too/268/" rel="nofollow">I've given up on being civil</a> about religion. Many people who are religious deserve (and get) my respect. Religious <em>ideas</em>, on the other hand, have earned only my scorn and derision, and I'm not givingDan Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859759162872190863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4283977111907193493.post-20953173119065589002009-06-30T16:27:08.936-04:002009-06-30T16:27:08.936-04:00I thought you might find this a little heartening....I thought you might find this a little heartening. I just got back from that folk music festival I mentioned a few weeks ago. As you might imagine, hippie-dippy-new-agey types did abound. Well, during one of the performances the singer, Christine Lavin, asked a short series of questions. Here are the questions and results of this extremely unscientific survey.<br /><br />1. Do you believe in Abby Normalnoreply@blogger.com